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Here are some pics after I cleaned her up, restrung her, put my usually Graphtech bridge and tailpiece on and got everything working.

The back of the guitar was very hard to shoot. It’s like a mirror, I have never seen such a beautiful finish job. The neck is a light satin finish. The front is more of a glossy.

Enjoy! IMG_1571.jpeg IMG_1577.jpeg IMG_1573.jpeg IMG_1574.jpeg IMG_1572.jpeg IMG_1578.jpeg
 

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Well I figured it was going to come down to this. I have never had an Epi that I haven’t had to level the frets somewhere. So instead of dragging my feet, I will be working tonight.

Everything lined up great except a few frets near the nut. Well that’s kinda why I like Epi’s to begin with. They end up becoming completely custom instruments by the time I get done fussing with them.

But I love all of them and they play exactly like I want them to with such great action and feel in the end.

You just can’t buy that off the rack. And at Epi’s price point I am not afraid to do alterations I would have to turn over to a tech otherwise just because the guitar is so expensive.

I’ll be whittling away. :)

Pat
 

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that’s a nice one you got there! I really like how you could see the wood grain on the back of your neck. Mine’s got this really heavy satin finish on it that just shows up as a very cloudy wine red.
 

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Finished with the frets. The first 5 needed to be brought down and then leveled with the rest, Part of it was the neck settling down. Dual truss rods always seem to yo-yo before they settle in when I change the strings to 11’s.

Happy to report everything has settled in just fine and I was able to get the same low action I have on my other Epi’s.

I am not that impressed with the graphite nut that came with the guitar totally and with its ability to stay in tune. So I ordered an ebony Tusq XL for a replacement.

Should be getting that in the mail in the next few days,

Got to put the Dunlop strap locks in and that should be it.

I will let you know my impression of the Gibson pickups once the playing field is level with my other Epi’s.

I found a beautiful Levy’s strap to go with the guitar. :)
 

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Man, I really dodged a bullet with replacing the nut on my new guitar. I thought I had better Google how to properly remove a nut and stumbled onto Gibson’s official page about removing their nuts.

I learned that Gibson often time uses a fine detail line that bridges the binding and the paint job on the neck and headstock. As well they spray the nut with the final finish they use on the headstock further binding the nut with the paint job.

So if I were to go barging in and try to knock the nut off, I could take some paint from the guitar off with it on the headstock and on the sides! :wow:

Sure nuff my guitar was exactly as Gibson said it would be even though it is an Epiphone.

So Gibson recommended using an X-acto knife to score lightly around the nut on the sides and where the nut meets the head stock until it was free of the paint job.

Then lightly knock the nut on one side and then the other while bracing the nut on the neck side with a wood block till it was free of the glue. Then using pincers lift the nut off the guitar instead of sliding it out one side or the other.

Man I would have done everything wrong if I hadn’t read this article. What a major bummer that would have been.

So I got the Tusq XL in the mail today and it looks to be an exact match of the graphite nut Epiphone put on this guitar.

The graphite nut performed poorly keeping the guitar in tune and I suspect is robbing the guitar of tone as well.

I plan to take my time removing this nut! I’ll keep you posted…:)

Pat
 

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Man, I really dodged a bullet with replacing the nut on my new guitar. I thought I had better Google how to properly remove a nut and stumbled onto Gibson’s official page about removing their nuts.

I learned that Gibson often time uses a fine detail line that bridges the binding and the paint job on the neck and headstock. As well they spray the nut with the final finish they use on the headstock further binding the nut with the paint job.

So if I were to go barging in and try to knock the nut off, I could take some paint from the guitar off with it on the headstock and on the sides! :wow:

Sure nuff my guitar was exactly as Gibson said it would be even though it is an Epiphone.

So Gibson recommended using an X-acto knife to score lightly around the nut on the sides and where the nut meets the head stock until it was free of the paint job.

Then lightly knock the nut on one side and then the other while bracing the nut on the neck side with a wood block till it was free of the glue. Then using pincers lift the nut off the guitar instead of sliding it out one side or the other.

Man I would have done everything wrong if I hadn’t read this article. What a major bummer that would have been.

So I got the Tusq XL in the mail today and it looks to be an exact match of the graphite nut Epiphone put on this guitar.

The graphite nut performed poorly keeping the guitar in tune and I suspect is robbing the guitar of tone as well.

I plan to take my time removing this nut! I’ll keep you posted…:)

Pat
Glad you read that before you proceeded! Do you have a set of proper nut files? The off-the-shelf Tusqs need a bit of filing too sometimes - really depends on your strings, or else you basically end up with the same issues as the stock nut.
 

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Man, I really dodged a bullet with replacing the nut on my new guitar. I thought I had better Google how to properly remove a nut and stumbled onto Gibson’s official page about removing their nuts.

I learned that Gibson often time uses a fine detail line that bridges the binding and the paint job on the neck and headstock. As well they spray the nut with the final finish they use on the headstock further binding the nut with the paint job.

So if I were to go barging in and try to knock the nut off, I could take some paint from the guitar off with it on the headstock and on the sides! :wow:

Sure nuff my guitar was exactly as Gibson said it would be even though it is an Epiphone.

So Gibson recommended using an X-acto knife to score lightly around the nut on the sides and where the nut meets the head stock until it was free of the paint job.

Then lightly knock the nut on one side and then the other while bracing the nut on the neck side with a wood block till it was free of the glue. Then using pincers lift the nut off the guitar instead of sliding it out one side or the other.

Man I would have done everything wrong if I hadn’t read this article. What a major bummer that would have been.

So I got the Tusq XL in the mail today and it looks to be an exact match of the graphite nut Epiphone put on this guitar.

The graphite nut performed poorly keeping the guitar in tune and I suspect is robbing the guitar of tone as well.

I plan to take my time removing this nut! I’ll keep you posted…:)

Pat
Last 2 guitars I bought , both 59 Standards , IMO , had nuts cut too deep . Both "basically " fell out when I took the strings off , so it was easy to replace them . Replaced them with the TUSQ XL . Had to remove /lower /sand ( probably not saying this right ) a bit off bottom . I'm not sure what year your guitar is , but there is a "pre 2014" 6060 and " post 2014" 6061 . So make sure you ordered the right one .
 

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Last 2 guitars I bought , both 59 Standards , IMO , had nuts cut too deep . Both "basically " fell out when I took the strings off , so it was easy to replace them . Replaced them with the TUSQ XL . Had to remove /lower /sand ( probably not saying this right ) a bit off bottom . I'm not sure what year your guitar is , but there is a "pre 2014" 6060 and " post 2014" 6061 . So make sure you ordered the right one .

Thank you for the heads up. I ordered the nut from Sweetwater and they had them clearly tagged pre 2014 6060 and post 2014 6061.

I just don’t understand how one nut fits all the Epiphones post 2014 when Les Paul Customs have a wider neck. Come to think of it, the same bridge fits LPC’s and regular Les Pauls too.

Can someone explain that to me? :confused:
 

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Thank you for the heads up. I ordered the nut from Sweetwater and they had them clearly tagged pre 2014 6060 and post 2014 6061.

I just don’t understand how one nut fits all the Epiphones post 2014 when Les Paul Customs have a wider neck. Come to think of it, the same bridge fits LPC’s and regular Les Pauls too.

Can someone explain that to me? :confused:
Bridge is easy because the routing is the same to fit the standard metric tune-o-matics (only exception would be older Samick made ones, but that's a different story) . Nut depends - there might be situations where you can't just go by the "fits all Epi before/after X" description. Always should measure before buying.
 

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Well I thought about it and it stands to reason that the closer the nut is to the bridge the wider the neck would have to be since the nut is smaller than the bridge.

So I suppose it’s just how far the nut is from the bridge that determines how wide the neck is and I am sure they have the exact measurements for all that.

At least that’s how I imagine a regular nut and bridge fitting a wider neck and a standard neck.

This is clearly above my pay grade. :)

Pat
 

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Well I have decided to leave the graphite nut be for now. Basically, the biggest problem with this guitar is just hasn’t ever been played.

So, the strings were kinda sticky on the graphite nut at first, maybe because I am playing 11’s, but they have started to wear in and the guitar is staying in tune now.

The Tusq nut might give a more midrange pronounced sound but I have that nut on 2 other Les Pauls so I am willing to try something new.

Pat
 

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Well I have decided to leave the graphite nut be for now. Basically, the biggest problem with this guitar is just hasn’t ever been played.

So, the strings were kinda sticky on the graphite nut at first, maybe because I am playing 11’s, but they have started to wear in and the guitar is staying in tune now.

The Tusq nut might give a more midrange pronounced sound but I have that nut on 2 other Les Pauls so I am willing to try something new.

Pat
Maybe just take the extra string that was cut and use that as a makeshift file and file out the slots a bit to make sure the strings fit?
 


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