Epiphone Casino 2024 pickups?

[JavierJ]

Hello,

Hope you are all doing great!

I recently bought a new Epiphone Casino and I love the stock P90 pickups. I think they sound really good. I was just curious about their specs, do you know if they use Alnico 5 magnets?

I measured their dc resistance with my Fluke multimeter and I got 8.87K on the bridge pickup and 8.92K on the neck pickup. I was able to stick my cable camera and got a photo underneath of the pickup code and it's P90DENPB-C for the bridge pickup and P90DENPN-C for the neck pickup. I have seen other people measuring these pickups and it is pretty close to what I got.

I have also read that these come stock on the Epiphone Worn Casino version. Are these the pickups that Epiphone calls them the PRO P90?

Thanks!

 

[soulman969]

Welcome to our forum Javier.

Yes, the Casino has the dog ear version of the P90 Pros.

 

[Zontar]

Welcome, you realize we want pictures too?

But when you’re ready…

And those pickups arecool.

 

[JavierJ]

Welcome, you realize we want pictures too?

But when you’re ready…

And those pickups arecool.

 

[JavierJ]

Do you know if those PRO P90 pickups are Alnico 5, or are they different Alnico magnet type?

 

[Zontar]

Do you know if those PRO P90 pickups are Alnico 5, or are they different Alnico magnet type?

I don’t know, would need to look it up

 

[soulman969]

Do you know if those PRO P90 pickups are Alnico 5, or are they different Alnico magnet type?

Yes.....Alnico V.

 

[agetofu]

Polished Alnico v bars seems to be what Epi favors these days. Maybe Alnico 4 in the neck Alnico Pro humbucker, but 5 otherwise

 

[Mike Hickey]

Who cares as long as they sound good. You already know more about your pickups than I know about mine. As long as you like em it doesn't matter

 

[Norton]

The Casino might be the best $ you can spend on a guitar. They definitely punch above their price tag.

The pickups are great... but they're 40% better when you take off those shitty pickup covers. They absolutely suck... and what they suck is high end and any kind of dynamic response to picking.

They are tough to remove, but a little torch will make quick work of it. I'm sure you can source a thinner nickel silver dog ear cover that won't act like a blanket but I'm a fan of the full black out and went that way.

Viva la Casino!

 

[BlueSquirrel]

The Casino might be the best $ you can spend on a guitar. They definitely punch above their price tag.

The pickups are great... but they're 40% better when you take off those shitty pickup covers. They absolutely suck... and what they suck is high end and any kind of dynamic response to picking.

They are tough to remove, but a little torch will make quick work of it. I'm sure you can source a thinner nickel silver dog ear cover that won't act like a blanket but I'm a fan of the full black out and went that way.

Viva la Casino!

No, that's actually super hard to find because Epiphone/Gibson have changed the pole spacing - and possibly the bottom of their Casino pickups' curve (the part that fits on the guitar's top) too - on both their Chinese Epi P90 dogear Casino pickups and their USA Casino P90 dogear pickups.
I've been looking for months and, so far, no luck!

 

[Zontar]

The Casino might be the best $ you can spend on a guitar. They definitely punch above their price tag.

The pickups are great... but they're 40% better when you take off those shitty pickup covers. They absolutely suck... and what they suck is high end and any kind of dynamic response to picking.

They are tough to remove, but a little torch will make quick work of it. I'm sure you can source a thinner nickel silver dog ear cover that won't act like a blanket but I'm a fan of the full black out and went that way.

Viva la Casino!

That may be your experience, but i loved the way the pickups sounded in any I have tried.
It depends what you’re looking for, and part of that in my case was something that sounded different than what I have

 

[Norton]

Zontar... plastic covers vs. stock brass.... it's night and day. It's not so much that the stock setup is bad, because it's not....it's just that there is sooooo much more available with different pickup covers.

Pull a humbucker cover... yeah maybe there's a little difference... pull a casino brass cover and your eyes will open wide and you'll laugh at the audible difference.

At least I did.

it's all fantastic. digg it!

 

[Roy E. Munson]

Anyone know where I can find a set of the nickel covers for a USA Casino?

I got this from Gibson.

 

[Equalphone]

Zontar... plastic covers vs. stock brass.... it's night and day. It's not so much that the stock setup is bad, because it's not....it's just that there is sooooo much more available with different pickup covers.

Pull a humbucker cover... yeah maybe there's a little difference... pull a casino brass cover and your eyes will open wide and you'll laugh at the audible difference.

At least I did.

it's all fantastic. digg it!

I'd just tweak that to say that you'll find inexpensive humbuckers with brass covers too... and the difference is likely noticeable there too. I don't follow Epi's pickups close enough to know which have had which along the way, but the science definitely supports brass covers cutting highs.

 

[BlueSquirrel]

The Epi P90 Pro are supposed to have nickel silver covers anyway.

 

[Paruwi]

Zontar... plastic covers vs. stock brass.... it's night and day. It's not so much that the stock setup is bad, because it's not....it's just that there is sooooo much more available with different pickup covers.

Pull a humbucker cover... yeah maybe there's a little difference... pull a casino brass cover and your eyes will open wide and you'll laugh at the audible difference.

At least I did.

it's all fantastic. digg it!

Can confirm this....

plastic P90 covers on this one....
even the golden one is.....


now ^^

before ^^

 

[BlueSquirrel]

Meanwhile, the Epi P90 Pro still sound very good and one of our members here who had opened one up mentioned that the covers were nickel silver so there may not be any need for plastic covers or to swap these pickups for Gibson ones.
The gain might be very minimal.

 

[Norton]

The nickel dog ear covers on the worn casino's are thick and heavy.

I didn't do a metallurgical deep dive on them... but they're nothing like your average humbucker cover.

They 100% knock the output, the dynamic range and the overall frequency response of the pickup down by a VERY easy to discern amount.

The human ear is a very inaccurate measuring device. Coarse... usually not able to reliably distinguish anything under a 3db shift

Swapping out the metal covers for plastic was a VERY easy to hear change. Substantial, even. Not splitting hairs or tone chasing, just obviously different.

Maybe the 2025 casino's have different pickup covers?

 

[BlueSquirrel]

@Norton Which Casino Epi pickups are you talking about ?

Are there the older wound-to-12-K-with-plastic-wire pickups or the current P90 Pros which are wound around 8.8 K, have braided wires and which bear P90DENPB-C for the bridge pickup and P90DENPN-C for the neck on their backs (the ones that Original PosterJavierJ started the thread about?)